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Alice Travis became the first Black woman to host a nationally syndicated talk show in 1977. | Octob

Alice Travis became the first Black woman to host a nationally syndicated talk show in 1977. [View in browser](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRnFjSOP4QqAWh0dHBzOi8vbWVzc2FnaW5nLWN1c3RvbS1uZXdzbGV0dGVycy5ueXRpbWVzLmNvbS90ZW1wbGF0ZS9vYWt2Mj9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD0zNyZlbWM9ZWRpdF9ycl8yMDIzMTAyMSZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD0xMDU3NDQmbmw9cmFjZSUyRnJlbGF0ZWQmcHJvZHVjdENvZGU9UlImcmVnaV9pZD03NzY3NDk1MiZzZWdtZW50X2lkPTE0Nzk0MyZ0ZT0xJnVyaT1ueXQlM0ElMkYlMkZuZXdzbGV0dGVyJTJGNDRmYmY5NjAtOGI5NS01OWNmLTk0ZTQtYmU0Y2FiOWE3MzBjJnVzZXJfaWQ9YWE0OTFlZjdmMWQ5NjRlNDk3OWZiNzg0ZTc0ZTAxZDdXA255dEIKZR2OrzNlq1vi01IbdHJpc3RyYW1iYWxkd2luOTBAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAAD)|[nytimes.com](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRnFjSOP0SyaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vP2NhbXBhaWduX2lkPTM3JmVtYz1lZGl0X3JyXzIwMjMxMDIxJmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTEwNTc0NCZubD1yYWNlJTJGcmVsYXRlZCZyZWdpX2lkPTc3Njc0OTUyJnNlZ21lbnRfaWQ9MTQ3OTQzJnRlPTEmdXNlcl9pZD1hYTQ5MWVmN2YxZDk2NGU0OTc5ZmI3ODRlNzRlMDFkN1cDbnl0QgplHY6vM2WrW-LTUht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAAM~)[Continue reading the main story](#a11y-skip-ad-marquee) [Marquee Ad](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRnFjSOP0SZaHR0cHM6Ly9saXZlaW50ZW50Lm5ld3lvcmt0aW1lc2luZm8uY29tL2NsaWNrP3M9MjA3NTgwJmxpPVJSJm09YWE0OTFlZjdmMWQ5NjRlNDk3OWZiNzg0ZTc0ZTAxZDcmcD1SUl8yMDIzMTAyMSZ0ZT0xJm5sPXJhY2UlMkZyZWxhdGVkJmVtYz1lZGl0X3JyXzIwMjMxMDIxVwNueXRCCmUdjq8zZatb4tNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAw~~) [More Race/Related](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRnFjSOP0TAaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubnl0aW1lcy5jb20vc3BvdGxpZ2h0L3JhY2U_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9MzcmZW1jPWVkaXRfcnJfMjAyMzEwMjEmaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9MTA1NzQ0Jm5sPXJhY2UlMkZyZWxhdGVkJnJlZ2lfaWQ9Nzc2NzQ5NTImc2VnbWVudF9pZD0xNDc5NDMmdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPWFhNDkxZWY3ZjFkOTY0ZTQ5NzlmYjc4NGU3NGUwMWQ3VwNueXRCCmUdjq8zZatb4tNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAw~~) October 21, 2023 Alice Travis was among the first wave of Black television newswomen hired nationwide, part of an early effort to diversify American newsrooms in the wake of the protests and racial conflicts of the 1960s.Maansi Srivastava/The New York Times A Groundbreaking Career By Maya S. Cade Alice Travis was a seasoned reporter when she auditioned in 1975 for the ABC show that would become “Good Morning America.” Travis, who was then 32, had already co-hosted two major-market news shows: “Panorama” (alongside Maury Povich), in Washington D.C., and “AM New York.” The Black-owned weekly newspaper New York Amsterdam News once described her as “one of the brightest and brainiest of the undiscovered teevee personalities.” So she was unprepared for what she said a network executive told her after the audition. “‘Quite frankly your color is not to your advantage,’” Travis recounted over lunch in Manhattan this past summer. “Shocking statements, but after a while they no longer shocked.” Travis was among the first wave of Black television newswomen hired nationwide, part of an early effort to diversify American newsrooms in the wake of the protests and racial conflicts of the 1960s. While her rejection by the ABC morning show was painful, what she did next was groundbreaking: She became the first Black woman to host her own national talk show. The syndicated “For You … Black Woman” premiered in June 1977, the first national talk show created for, as the title suggested, a Black female audience. From a set in a New York studio designed to look like a comfortable living room, Travis discussed topics like self-fulfillment, relationships, beauty, politics and parenting as they applied specifically to Black women, occasionally with notable figures. Her guests included Toni Morrison, the activist Florynce Kennedy and the actress Jayne Kennedy. Muhammad Ali, then the heavyweight champion, came on to discuss his relationships with women, and his occasionally benighted attitudes about them. “He’s arrogant, chauvinistic and delightful,” Travis told The New York Times in a [1978 interview](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRnFjSOP4QKAWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm55dGltZXMuY29tLzE5NzgvMDEvMjIvYXJjaGl2ZXMvYWxpLXNwYXJzLXdpdGgtd29tZW4taW4tYS10di1pbnRlcnZpZXctZm9ybWF0LW9mLXByb2dyYW0td2FzLW5vLmh0bWw_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9MzcmZW1jPWVkaXRfcnJfMjAyMzEwMjEmaW5zdGFuY2VfaWQ9MTA1NzQ0Jm5sPXJhY2UlMkZyZWxhdGVkJnJlZ2lfaWQ9Nzc2NzQ5NTImc2VnbWVudF9pZD0xNDc5NDMmdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPWFhNDkxZWY3ZjFkOTY0ZTQ5NzlmYjc4NGU3NGUwMWQ3VwNueXRCCmUdjq8zZatb4tNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAw~~) about the episode. [Continue reading the main story](#a11y-skip-universal-0) ADVERTISEMENT [Ad](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRnFjSOP0SZaHR0cHM6Ly9saXZlaW50ZW50Lm5ld3lvcmt0aW1lc2luZm8uY29tL2NsaWNrP3M9MTc0MTQ5JmxpPVJSJm09YWE0OTFlZjdmMWQ5NjRlNDk3OWZiNzg0ZTc0ZTAxZDcmcD1SUl8yMDIzMTAyMSZ0ZT0xJm5sPXJhY2UlMkZyZWxhdGVkJmVtYz1lZGl0X3JyXzIwMjMxMDIxVwNueXRCCmUdjq8zZatb4tNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAw~~) In a way she was Oprah before Oprah, a Black woman discussing the news of the day and interviewing celebrities before a national TV audience. According to Charles W. Gerber, the son of the “For You” creator Charles S. Gerber, Oprah Winfrey at one point thanked his father for putting the show on the air. (Winfrey declined to comment through a spokeswoman.) Travis anchoring news at noon for WTTG.Alice Travis/Library of Congress Travis’s TV career began with much promise but ended up being relatively brief. She came up in an era when Black anchorwomen seemed to be solidifying their place as part of the future of news programming, and at the height of her popularity, in 1978, Travis was broadcast to over 70 percent of Black America, according to news reports at the time. But she stepped away from the industry only a decade after her broadcast career began. [Continue reading the main story](#a11y-skip-universal-1) ADVERTISEMENT [Ad](~/AAAAAQA~/RgRnFjSOP0SZaHR0cHM6Ly9saXZlaW50ZW50Lm5ld3lvcmt0aW1lc2luZm8uY29tL2NsaWNrP3M9MjA3NTc3JmxpPVJSJm09YWE0OTFlZjdmMWQ5NjRlNDk3OWZiNzg0ZTc0ZTAxZDcmcD1SUl8yMDIzMTAyMSZ0ZT0xJm5sPXJhY2UlMkZyZWxhdGVkJmVtYz1lZGl0X3JyXzIwMjMxMDIxVwNueXRCCmUdjq8zZatb4tNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAAAAw~~) As a Black mass media researcher and the creator and curator of the Black Film Archive, I was stunned that I had never heard of Travis until I stumbled upon tapes of “For You … Black Woman” earlier this year at the Library of Congress, where I’m currently a scholar in residence. As I watched grainy 1977 clips in the library’s Moving Image Research Center, Travis’s intellect, energetic smile and bubbly demeanor seemed to leap off the screen. I decided I had to learn more about her. A few weeks later, she sat across from me at a cafe for her first interview in years. Over lunch, she talked about her career as part of a tradition of Black women being overlooked for their accomplishments. “Who are these unknown Black women who walk among us and who without recognition march into eternity through the multitude of lives they have touched?” she said. Now 80, Travis grew up in New Orleans in a multigenerational home built by her carpenter grandfather. In 1965 she graduated from Immaculata College (now Immaculata University) in Pennsylvania with a sociology degree, planning to work in health services. 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Johnson to find solutions to the nation’s civil unrest. Dorothy Tucker, a longtime reporter for Chicago’s CBS affiliate and a former president of the National Association of Black Journalists, said the “major takeaway” from the Kerner Commission Report “was a recognition that our nation is moving toward two societies: one Black, one white, separate and unequal.” “The media and its lack of coverage dealing with racial issues was also held responsible for creating the problems outlined by the commission,” she explained. “That wasn’t lost on white news managers who were forced to acknowledge the need to bring diversity to their historically white newsrooms. 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