Ilana Glazer on Broad City: ‘People thought it was effortless – in reality, we were killing ourselves’

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So why is he suddenly so keen on leaving the house? He’s been everywhere this summer, from Glastonbury to a Taylor Swift gig, and this weekend he’ll be rappelling down the Stade de France to help close the Paris Olympics. I loved Adam’s piece on [Cruise’s very surreal summer](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0R-aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2ZpbG1zL2ZlYXR1cmVzL3RvbS1jcnVpc2Utb2x5bXBpY3MtZ2xhc3RvbmJ1cnktYjI1OTM4MTkuaHRtbD9saWQ9cjh5ejcyeWd6Y3VqVwVzcGNldUIKZq1rELdmGWY6Q1IbdHJpc3RyYW1iYWxkd2luOTBAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAMj), and how this latest out-of-this-world cameo is only adding to his Hollywood mystique. We had a fair few five star reviews last week (I’ve been telling everyone I know to run to get tickets for [The Years at the Almeida](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0STaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L3RoZWF0cmUtZGFuY2UvcmV2aWV3cy90aGUteWVhcnMtcmV2aWV3LWFsbWVpZGEtdGhlYXRyZS1hbm5pZS1lcm5hdXgtYjI1ODk1NzUuaHRtbD9saWQ9aXVvajdiYnZ0MWtnVwVzcGNldUIKZq1rELdmGWY6Q1IbdHJpc3RyYW1iYWxkd2luOTBAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAMj) before they all disappear), so I suppose it’s only the laws of gravity that not much this week has hit the spot for our critics. Clarisse calls Borderlands, a big screen video game adaptation starring Cate Blanchett, [“a disaster”](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0R2aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2ZpbG1zL3Jldmlld3MvYm9yZGVybGFuZHMtbW92aWUtcmV2aWV3LWIyNTkyNjcwLmh0bWw_bGlkPTE4N3N4MHdhOWIzc1cFc3BjZXVCCmataxC3ZhlmOkNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAADIw~~). She was also unconvinced by the long awaited movie version of Colleen Hoover’s It Ends With Us, in which Blake Lively plays Lily Bloom, who [“does not register as a real person”](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0SBaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2ZpbG1zL3Jldmlld3MvaXQtZW5kcy13aXRoLXVzLWJsYWtlLWxpdmVseS1yZXZpZXctYjI1OTI0NDIuaHRtbD9saWQ9cWliOHU5Yjc4NHBxVwVzcGNldUIKZq1rELdmGWY6Q1IbdHJpc3RyYW1iYWxkd2luOTBAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAMj). And the UK version of Netflix’s Love is Blind did not impress Ellie Muir, who says that [“everyone here is conventionally hot, making the whole concept redundant”](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0SDaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L3R2L3Jldmlld3MvbG92ZS1pcy1ibGluZC11ay1yZXZpZXctbWF0dC1lbW1hLXdpbGxpcy1iMjU5MTQxMy5odG1sP2xpZD1veGljdTY1bTRoazdXBXNwY2V1QgpmrWsQt2YZZjpDUht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAyM~). And I’ve not even mentioned the flop finale of House of the Dragon; Nick Hilton agreed with viewers that the second series [came to an unsatisfying, anticlimactic conclusion](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0SUaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L3R2L3Jldmlld3MvaG91c2Utb2YtdGhlLWRyYWdvbi1zZWFzb24tMi1lcGlzb2RlLTgtcmV2aWV3LWNhc3QtZmluYWxlLWIyNTkxNzU3Lmh0bWw_bGlkPWZsY3FvNzVtY2x0blcFc3BjZXVCCmataxC3ZhlmOkNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAADIw~~). ~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0R-aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2ZpbG1zL2ZlYXR1cmVzL3RvbS1jcnVpc2Utb2x5bXBpY3MtZ2xhc3RvbmJ1cnktYjI1OTM4MTkuaHRtbD9saWQ9aWR6aTNjNm5sN3gzVwVzcGNldUIKZq1rELdmGWY6Q1IbdHJpc3RyYW1iYWxkd2luOTBAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAMj Man of the people: Tom Cruise poses for selfies with fans during one of his (many) public appearances this summer, this time at the Paris Olympics (Ryan Browne/Shutterstock) Elsewhere this week, Louis wrote about Piers Morgan’s interview with Andrew Tate, which he said [“had the feel of a discourse lurching into a gutter”](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0SPaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L3R2L2ZlYXR1cmVzL3BpZXJzLW1vcmdhbi1hbmRyZXctdGF0ZS1pbnRlcnZpZXctdW5jZW5zb3JlZC1yaW90cy1iMjU5MzMyMy5odG1sP2xpZD02bmRtdnN1YXE4azFXBXNwY2V1QgpmrWsQt2YZZjpDUht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAyM~). Speaking of discourse, the Deadpool and Wolverine debates continue, with Annabel writing that the blockbuster [feels like an incubator for potential sequels](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0SKaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2ZpbG1zL2ZlYXR1cmVzL2RlYWRwb29sLXJ5YW4tcmV5bm9sZHMtY2hhbm5pbmctdGF0dW0tY2FtZW8tYjI1OTIwMDMuaHRtbD9saWQ9b3p6OHhvODdodHpkVwVzcGNldUIKZq1rELdmGWY6Q1IbdHJpc3RyYW1iYWxkd2luOTBAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAMj). Mark Beaumont explored the [dark musical legacy of murderer Charles Manson](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0R4aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L211c2ljL2ZlYXR1cmVzL2NoYXJsZXMtbWFuc29uLW11c2ljLWN1bHQtYjI1ODk2MTMuaHRtbD9saWQ9Znhmb3ZweWZua2c1VwVzcGNldUIKZq1rELdmGWY6Q1IbdHJpc3RyYW1iYWxkd2luOTBAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAMj), and Geoffrey McNab explained why, 40 years on, The Terminator[films have never been more relevant](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0SRaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2ZpbG1zL2ZlYXR1cmVzL3RoZS10ZXJtaW5hdG9yLWFybm9sZC1zY2h3YXJ6ZW5lZ2dlci1qYW1lcy1jYW1lcm9uLWIyNTkzMzYyLmh0bWw_bGlkPWgzbWd0YWlsNDVpZlcFc3BjZXVCCmataxC3ZhlmOkNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAADIw~~). Have a great weekend, Jessie [@jessiecath](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0QyaHR0cDovL3d3dy50d2l0dGVyLmNvbS9qZXNzaWVjYXRoP2xpZD0yejl2Mmg0ZXlud2NXBXNwY2V1QgpmrWsQt2YZZjpDUht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAyM~)   Support The Independent Join The Independent's mission for truth. With your support, we challenge the status quo, uncover crucial stories, and amplify unheard voices. Your contribution ensures our independence and fuels honest, transparent journalism. Whether $5 or $50, every donation matters. Support us today to keep truth free. [SUPPORT US](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0Q1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvZG9uYXRlP2xpZD1lOG5icTYxcDZneTBXBXNwY2V1QgpmrWsQt2YZZjpDUht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAyM~) [Payment methods](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0Q1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvZG9uYXRlP2xpZD1nOG1nbXY0cHZmOXpXBXNwY2V1QgpmrWsQt2YZZjpDUht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAyM~) What to do this weekend Music | [Prom 42: Beethoven's Ninth by Heart](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0RHaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L211c2ljP2xpZD14MzloNDR6OHpjeHFXBXNwY2V1QgpmrWsQt2YZZjpDUht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAyM~) I've spent the last two weeks glued to the Olympics, in awe of what humans can do with their bodies. As it's coming to an end this weekend, I think the only way to replace that open-mouthed disbelief is to go and watch [the Proms at Royal Albert Hall](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0R3aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2NsYXNzaWNhbC9mZWF0dXJlcy9iYmMtcHJvbXMtMjAyNC1ndWlkZS1iMjU3NDc4MC5odG1sP2xpZD1laWR2a3cwNnJsMndXBXNwY2V1QgpmrWsQt2YZZjpDUht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAyM~), and be blown away by the music humans are capable of creating. So I'm going to go and see the Aurora Orchestra, who won't just be performing Beethoven's Ninth Symphony – they'll be doing so by heart. Jessie Thompson | Arts editor   TV | [Slip](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0REaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L3R2P2xpZD1jdjY3MWF2OThpNjdXBXNwY2V1QgpmrWsQt2YZZjpDUht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAyM~) This offbeat comedy on ITVX follows Mae (Zoe Lister-Jones), a New York hipster who crosses into a parallel universe every time she orgasms. It’s an ambitious premise, but the execution is smart and the show soon transcends its mad concept and slips into something more meaningful. And very moreish. Ellie Harrison | TV editor   Music | [Beabadoobee: This Is How Tomorrow Moves](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0RHaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L211c2ljP2xpZD0xaml5ZXBsZmdlcDZXBXNwY2V1QgpmrWsQt2YZZjpDUht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAyM~) Having admitted to blaming everyone else for her problems on her first two albums – Fake it Flowers (2020) and Beatopia (2022) – 24-year-old Beatrice Laus’ third LP finds the singer-songwriter taking responsibility for her actions. It’s not just the Filipino-British Gen Zer’s attitude that’s grown up. The songwriting on [This Is How Tomorrow Moves](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0SLaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L211c2ljL3Jldmlld3MvYmVhYmFkb29iZWUtdGhpcy1pcy1ob3ctdG9tb3Jyb3ctbW92ZXMtcmV2aWV3LWIyNTkzMzU3Lmh0bWw_bGlkPTFqMHU0YmlvNHpxelcFc3BjZXVCCmataxC3ZhlmOkNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAADIw~~) has a deeper confidence to it, allowing Laus to embrace the sweet, hooky melodies, which swell above her Nineties-indie-inspired sound. Clarisse Loughrey | Chief film critic   Exhibition | [Lee & LEE, Farley's House and Gallery](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0RFaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2FydD9saWQ9OWp2NW42a3k5aTQ3VwVzcGNldUIKZq1rELdmGWY6Q1IbdHJpc3RyYW1iYWxkd2luOTBAZ21haWwuY29tWAQAAAMj) I spent a sunny day in Sussex this week, visiting the home of war photographer and surrealist icon Lee Miller ahead of the release of Lee, a biopic starring Kate Winslet. I haven't been able to stop talking about it ever since. The house is open for public tours on Thursdays, Fridays and Sundays, and it's a must-visit for anyone in need of creative inspiration, or just keen to hear more about an extraordinary life. And until October, you can see [Lee & LEE, an exhibition that puts Miller's work alongside shots from the film](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0RTaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZmFybGV5c2hvdXNlYW5kZ2FsbGVyeS5jby51ay9leGhpYml0aW9uLWRldGFpbC9sZWVsZWUvP2xpZD1nODlsbWs2cHVleHRXBXNwY2V1QgpmrWsQt2YZZjpDUht0cmlzdHJhbWJhbGR3aW45MEBnbWFpbC5jb21YBAAAAyM~), showing how painstakingly the photographs were recreated. An additional bonus is the chance to see the shots Winslet took when she was in character – many of them eerily close to the exact frames captured by Miller. Jessie Thompson | Arts editor   [The Saturday Interview – Ilana Glazer](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0R8aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2ZpbG1zL2ZlYXR1cmVzL2lsYW5hLWdsYXplci1iYWJlcy1icm9hZC1jaXR5LWIyNTkzOTA4Lmh0bWw_bGlkPWM4bDltenZ1YzFra1cFc3BjZXVCCmataxC3ZhlmOkNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAADIw~~) ~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0R8aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2ZpbG1zL2ZlYXR1cmVzL2lsYW5hLWdsYXplci1iYWJlcy1icm9hZC1jaXR5LWIyNTkzOTA4Lmh0bWw_bGlkPTM0MnpxMzNhZzQ1eVcFc3BjZXVCCmataxC3ZhlmOkNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAADIw~~ Ilana Glazer: ‘I’ve been told my whole career my work is political’ (Getty for IMDb) The actor poured the hilarious, personal details of pregnancy into her new film ‘Babes’. Now [she sits down with Annabel Nugent](~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0R8aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2ZpbG1zL2ZlYXR1cmVzL2lsYW5hLWdsYXplci1iYWJlcy1icm9hZC1jaXR5LWIyNTkzOTA4Lmh0bWw_bGlkPXhkMXdpa200ZmozY1cFc3BjZXVCCmataxC3ZhlmOkNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAADIw~~) to talk about having her work downplayed on ‘Broad City’, why she chooses to lead with comedy over identity politics, and what it means for her to come out as a non-binary woman. ~/AAAHagA~/RgRomZVrP0R8aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuY28udWsvYXJ0cy1lbnRlcnRhaW5tZW50L2ZpbG1zL2ZlYXR1cmVzL2lsYW5hLWdsYXplci1iYWJlcy1icm9hZC1jaXR5LWIyNTkzOTA4Lmh0bWw_bGlkPWR3eDU3OTRpNGhmMVcFc3BjZXVCCmataxC3ZhlmOkNSG3RyaXN0cmFtYmFsZHdpbjkwQGdtYWlsLmNvbVgEAAADIw~~ Ilana Glazer and Michelle Bateau as BFFs in crisis in ‘Babes’ (Gwen Capistran) Read an extract from our Saturday Interview below… Over Zoom, her energy is frenetic, like a boiling pot about to spill over. She says “L-O-L” when something is funny but does so in a way that’s self-aware. She also talks with the timing of a stand-up, which she is: in 2020, her debut comedy special, The Planet Is Burning, landed on Prime Video. But what stands out is how quickly Glazer moves between light and heavy. She’ll crack up recalling her shock at learning that she’d have to birth her placenta (“no f***ing way!”) and bemoan the state of America’s ailing healthcare system in a single breath. Conversation with Glazer is rapid and winding, a current that sweeps you along. It is admittedly hard not to see in her Ilana Wexler – the filthy, flamboyant horndog of Broad City who captivated a generation, always saying things like: “My biggest weakness is that I lose my purse a lot, but my biggest strength is that I always get it back.” She was exactly the sort of character who engendered intense kinship in an audience, and a sometimes-startling overfamiliarity in a fanbase who conflated Ilana with the actor playing her. “People would totally come up and touch me, and get in my space,” she says now. 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